Renegades

How do you heal America?

That's the question at the heart of the conversation between former President Barack Obama and rock superstar, Bruce Springsteen.

Geraldine has been captivated by the podcast conversation about their lives, music and their mututal love of an increasingly divided America.

Also this episode, Eliza leans into the climate debate.

And Geraldine ponders what makes a good Grandma.

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Norman and Jonathan Swan at the Sydney Writers Festival

https://www.swf.org.au/festivals/festival-2021/swan-on-swan/

Anna Swan's long way back from brain trauma

 https://www.smh.com.au/national/you-never-know-what-strength-you-ve-got-anna-swan-s-long-road-back-from-brain-trauma-20201022-p567o1.html

Renegades – Born in the USA 

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/renegades-born-in-the-usa/id1562920267

David Remnick interviews Bruce Springsteen

 https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/bruce-springsteen-in-conversation-with-david-remnick

How it Happened podcast – Axios – Jonathan Swan

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/how-it-happened/id1549225698

The Journal – US Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm

https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/energy-secretary-granholm-on-the-future-of-oil/7ACFDFEB-EC11-4257-B996-B2DD4D829FC3

John Kerry – Foreign Policy 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/26/john-kerry-climate-envoy-interview-china-green-marketplace/

Carole Middleton – London Daily Telegraph 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/life/win-granny-one-upmanship-like-carole-middleton/